Saturday 29 March 2014

One of the Greatest wars in entertainment history: Marvel vs DC!

Welcome back to The Randomizer!


Let's be a little geeky today and discuss comic books.


Since the 1930s, they have become a great source of entertainment for young people and old alike around the world. It will be fair to say that it has become an international institution, giving us page after page after page of drama, comedy, love, and action all wrapped into one. Even now, comic books are ever-changing, even into different media formats; Films, video games and music have helped to expand the genre to gain new fans and keep them going for new generations to love and appreciate.

Now, what I'm going to be focusing on specifically is the two most famous American franchises, Marvel and DC. They have dominated comic books, especially in America, for the past seven decades, and their heroes can be considered to be a new line of mythological gods, compared to the old Greek Gods. We all know their names well: Superman, Batman, Iron Man, Captain America, The X-Men, Spider-Man, they are our generation's modern day gods. Apart from Ronnie James Dio. He's not a comic book hero, but he is still considered God of course.

In addition, I am also going to focus on specifically is Film and Television.....I think you can see where this will be going.

As we know today, comic book movies and television have been a long staple through those same decades. From the first Batman serials in World War II, to 'Superman''s release in 1978 to widespread acclaim, to the Marvel Cinematic Universe taking centre stage against the developing 'Justice League' film that started with Man of Steel last year, these films have received a good amount of praise, as well as courting controversy, more so with certain casting decisions then most these days, but other little bits as well. I've have mentioned some of these things before in my Top Ten  films I've seen in 2013, but some points will be raised here again.

However, I'll not be going to go though are comic book films good or not because I do like most of them. Rather I will be asking the question:  Which franchise is better, Marvel or DC?

This is something I'm sure has been going around for some time, and has bugged me for a little while. If you look on paper, both sides have had their share of good and bad in the past. For every Avengers and The Dark Knight, you have Spider Man 3 and........urgh.....Green Lantern. These films I will come back to overtime, and you might get a nice surprise soon enough.

I will be including my own personal opinions in this as well, so you'll have an impression of where I think each franchise will go, and what shows I like overall. But I will be honest in saying this beforehand: I am not a big comic-book fan, only following the films and TV shows. I have little interest in reading the comic books. I know of a few storylines only from what I have researched in the past and which ones influenced the films, so try not to hate me too much please.

So with all that said, here then is Marvel vs DC in Film and Television. Let the battle begin!



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Let's go easy and start with a general overview of Marvel.


It can be fair to say that since 2000, Marvel has had the edge over DC.....actually let's change that to effectively shot them in the face. With the release of X-Men, following up with the Spider-Man franchise a couple of years later, and only increasing the pressure with the onset of the Marvel Cinematic Universe from 2008, Marvel has systematically become King of Comic Book Movies with hardly much opposition. Almost all the movies have been very well received, albeit with some that split fans down the middle. Regardless they have gone from strength to strength, taking more risks as they are doing with Guardians of the Galaxy and using all sorts of different twists and awesome actors to keep their audiences talking.

However for some of the good that has happened, there have been some controversial moments as with every film franchise. It would be daft to ignore certain elements that have caused ire in not just the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but also in X-Men, Spider-Man, etc. Some of them are major problems, but some can be a few minor issues as well, which do make some sense once you think about them. For now, I'll just focus on what I think is good for Marvel films and TV shows, then follow up with what I think is bad next. The same will be done for DC Comics.

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THE GOOD FILMS:

Where to start with the good side of things........I suppose a good point is with the quality of films that have come out.

Needless to say, I have enjoyed a good deal of the Marvel films, more so with the Cinematic Universe then most. Though that has probably more to do with hearing the reactions of the X-Men movies, and seeing where the Spider-Man films are going nowadays. With the Cinematic Universe, I had originally made a little list for the first six films, known collectively as 'Phase 1', which went as follows:

The Avengers - 1 (duh)

Iron Man - 2

Thor - 3

The Incredible Hulk - 4

Captain America - 5

Iron Man 2 - 6

I'm sure anyone would have The Avengers and Iron Man at the top of their lists for good reason. They are very funny films, good action sequences, and pretty good acting all around. I think the bigger surprise on that list is Thor. I actually really enjoyed all the humour, liked Chris Hemsworth in the role of Thor and the twist with Loki as well, becoming a sort of Machivellian character with his own personal gain. It was a good film overall for me, granted that Loki's motivations can be a little non-sensical.

The second surprise is The Incredible Hulk, with Mr Take-Over Edward Norton playing a pretty good Bruce Banner, alongside Tim Roth playing the Abomination, Liv Tyler and William Hurt as army family Betty and 'Thunderbolt' Ross. I did think this was a good film, with some nice emotional moments here and there with Bruce and Betty. The action scenes are probably outdone by the emotional drama played out by the characters more, but not put way over the top. I would like to see a sequel to this film soon, and maybe one could've come sooner than later to my liking.

Captain America: The First Avenger was pretty good, but not on par with the others. Acting was ok given what Chris Evans and Hugo Weaving have against each other, but I don't really remember anything that stood out as awesome, just something to watch so you can keep in tune with the Cinematic Universe as a whole. Iron Man 2 I will come to in the next section.

Carrying on into Phase 2, you may remember my feelings about Iron Man 3 already from Top Ten Films of 2013. If you don't remember it, go over quickly beforehand. I have seen Thor: The Dark World as well (not really making it into my list), and thought as well that it was a pretty good film as well. Certainly it looked more pretty in a more practical state, and acting wise it was pretty good too, especially from Christopher Eccleston as Malekith the Accursed. But I did think the comedy went a little overboard with Darcy having a bit more focus and a few hit-and-miss jokes (disappointed!), and after reading up some truths about the film, it has become a little lower on my list. Good film, but not the best sequel I've seen.

With good reactions coming for the next two Marvel films Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy, along with what news we have for Avengers: Age of Ultron, things are still going strong for Marvel as of yet, and they aren't going to be knocked off their pearch just yet. In fact it might be a pretty big fall if they were knocked off since they're on top of the world.

Marvel doesn't just have films under the Nazi Regime.....oh sorry, The Walt Disney Company. Always get those two mixed up! They also have 20th Century Fox and Sony Pictures under their spell too. Even New Line Cinema released the Blade Trilogy under their banner before it became a subsidiary to Warner Bros. 3 companies that Marvel has to release all sorts of different films, and opportunities to do new projects; Well it's no wonder why Marvel are kings at the minute isn't it?!

Kings?......hehehhahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I need drink. ANOTHER!

20th Century Fox holds The Hugh Jackman Show, more commonly known as the X-Men, which really brought in a new influx of Comic Book Movies since the days of Batman and Superman, and allowed Marvel to gain a hand against DC. The first two movies were released to critical and box office praise from film-goers alike. Directed by Bryan Singer, the tone of both films were quite dark, brooding and well-directed action, and the over-riding theme of prejudice becoming the main focus. It's been a while since I have since both films, but I remember them being really great pieces of work. Hugh Jackman was good as Wolverine, along with Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellan as Professor Charles Xavier and Magneto respectively and all the others making good use of the characters they work with.

But with all due respect, those two films were the only real films I liked from the X-Men series so far. I have not seen X-Men Origins: Wolverine yet, and from what I've heard it's not a very good and well-thought out film. But perhaps I should do that soon!

The other two......well for the minute I'm going to say X-Men: First Class felt different. It was ok, with some good moments here and there, but it was a complete contrast to the first X-Men films, more colourful and historical then most. It's not necessarily bad per se, but it did not appeal to me so much. Some little bits did niggle me a bit, like why Magneto and Sebastian Shaw did not speak to each other in German during their final battle scene, since they were German to start with. The humour as well is different, which I think was because Matthew Vaughan who made Kick-Ass beforehand. That too is not bad, but against the tone of the first two X-Men films, it was strange. What didn't help X-Men First Class, in my mind at the time, was the conflicting idea of whether it was a reboot of the franchise or a prequel. It just utterly confused me what the intentions were. But reading an article about the film from Screenrant.com, Vaughan said that it was in fact a prequel to the X-Men Trilogy. It was a few years since it was written, so I wasn't totally up to date with the film's original purpose.

Sony Pictures on the other hand have the rights to the Spider-Man franchise, stretching back over a decade ago to 2002, first with the trilogy starring Toby Maguire in the role of Peter Parker, but then rebooted two years ago with Andrew Garfield in the role. I will be honest and say I never saw the first two Spider-Man films in the cinema, only by other means of DVDs and in a Greek bar on holiday. When I was younger, I did enjoy them immensely, having a vested interest in the narrative, the characters (especially Doc. Octopus), and the exploration of having awesome powers and using them as a means to do good in the world.

To probably your surprise, I haven't really watched Spider-Man 3 all the way through, just the beginning and the ending bits. I can't really have a big opinion on it for the time being, but I will say from what I've seen it's ok so far. I probably should put that on my list of films I need to watch all the way through too! (which begs the question, what am I doing with my life?)

But now I am an old and wiser soul (pfft not really :P), and re-watched Spider-Man last year so I could come to my own idea of who was the better Spider-Man. To be honest, Spider-Man was ok. Just ok mind. Toby Maguire is pretty good in the role, but I don't think he completely owns the role as Peter Parker. Something about him just threw me off. The CGI in the film can be pretty off-putting too, especially with the Green Goblin sometimes being blantanly bad. Speaking of the Green Goblin, Willem Defoe is hysterical as Norman Osborn, but again it now makes me feel kinda meh. Maybe it's something I can't really relate to anymore because I've grown up, and think it now an ok film with some silly bits.

On the other hand, The Amazing Spider-Man.......was kind of the same. Andrew Garfield was also good as Peter, but some bits were again a little off-putting, like the skateboarding stuff. It made for some good stunts, but....why is he a skateboarder, just to be different? Isn't that kinda forced? He's already a computer guy, he doesn't need the skateboarding stuff to be more introverted right? Despite that, the relationships he had with Uncle Ben and Aunt May felt more realistic, more dramatic, showing that Peter isn't the saintly kid, he can be a real dick some times. Garfield does play it a little better.

My favourite part of that film was actually Emma Stone playing Gwen Stacy. I just enjoyed her characterisation in the entire film. She brought a sort of spunkiness and intelligence to the role and sounded just right most of the way through, hitting everyone of her marks. Actually I take it back, both Stone and Sally Field were great. Field playing Aunt May felt more emotional and caring about what the hell is her nephew doing around at night and feeling lonely after her husband is shot. You really see the emotions pour out of her and sympathise completely with her fears. In this case, the male actors can suck it :P.

Initial opinions on The Amazing Spider-Man 2, I think it will be a little better then the first film. The action bits look impressive, the acting good and I wonder what will happen to Gwen Stacy in the end. What do I mean by that? Well......there have been certain elements of one of her costume that matches a certain costume from the comic books. That's all I'm going to say, no spoilers at all.


Safe to say the future is still bright for Marvel for the moment. As long as they keep releasing good quality films that people will enjoy in the heat of the moment, they are simply going to stay on top.

With that said......

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THE BAD FILMS:

Despite the reputation it has now around the world, they have had really bad hits in the past and present. Indeed, since the 80s to late 90s films based on Marvel were critical failures, such as Howard the Duck (produced by George Lucas), The Punisher (1989 film), Captain America (1990 film) and the unreleased Fantastic Four film (which as far as I know is actually viewable on Youtube). Things looked up with the release of more gritty and dramatic films like Blade and X-Men to better praise. Then in the middle 2000s simply put, quality declined.

Fantastic Four was released and received a critical drubbing, but good box office receipts were enough to warrant a sequel two years later, Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. That film received not-so much better reviews, and raked in less-money then the first. Again, I've only seen a bit of the first one and the second, so my opinion is limited. At the time of viewing from ages ago, the first one seemed ok but strange, probably due to the fact it was a scene where they're on the bridge and Jessica Alba was busy getting undressed to use her invisibility powers. The second film....it felt ok too. But the overall villain, Galactus was a cloud. Even I knew that he was a big fucking giant from the comics. It was a bizarre choice even today, and I still don't get why he needed to be changed into a cloud, even if the purple/blue costume looked out of place and could have been changed anyway.

But I did see X-Men: The Last Stand.

After posting this picture, my face melted and my eyes fell out of my sockets into a puddle of blood on the floor.

Oooooh, I HATED this film. This is an abomination. The plot focuses on the telepath Jean Grey becoming a more powerful person known as 'The Phoenix', and scientists have discovered a way to cure mutants of their powers, created from a mutant boy called Jimmy, whose powers can cancel out any mutant ability. Well you can see who that will piss off? Justin Bieber! He is a mutant anyway. No it's Ian McKellan of course and he reforms a new version of his Brotherhood of Mutants, even bringing Jean to his side after she kills Professor X. The X-Men though disheartened, fight the enlarged Brotherhood at the end and send them into retreat, with Wolverine killing Jean when she goes mad and destroys everything in sight.

Let me make a list of things as to why this film really annoys me:

·         Magneto dumps Mystique. This I thought was complete and utter crap. These two have a good relationship with each other in the first two films, yet he just abandons her after she shot with the cure. That is inexcusable and an insult on Magneto's character

·         Angel. Angel is one of the most important characters in the comic book world, being one of the first members of the X-Men. In the movie, he is absolutely pointless. He runs off from home, joins the X-Men, and saves his dad at the end. That is it. Urgh!

 ·         The Love Triangle between Rogue, Iceman and Shadowcat. This is a bit of a bugger, because you do understand how the relationship between Rogue and Iceman is like. She is unable to touch him, and vice-versa because of her powers. Still, it is a bit of a dick thing to give your attention to another girl rather than the one you actually love.

 ·         Brett Ratner/Bryan Singer. Yeah, I say this was always a big mistake for Bryan Singer to leave The Last Stand in favour of Superman Returns, leaving the reins for Brett Ratner to turn the film into an more action-packed flick, going in a completely different direction for the series. In fact, Ratner might have done better with Superman Returns. Because Superman is cheesy!

I think you can see where I'm coming from with those points. It's a film that really does grind my gears.
The other film I specifically want to talk about is Iron Man 2, where Tony Stark has to contend with a revenge plot from Ivan Vanko aka Whiplash because Vanko's father was deported to the old USSR for trying to make a profit of creating an arc reactor. Oh and he's dying too, making him do silly things like putting Pepper Potts up to be CEO of the company.....which motivation I missed completely, or maybe it wasn't made all too clear. And the ending....oh the ending. Vanko makes himself a suit to beat both Iron Man and the newly created War Machine, and fails. How original.

This was just a silly movie. Ivan Vanko was a pretty bad villain, getting completely owned by Iron Man twice, and ripping off the first Iron Man with his own suit. He even tries to blow the two heroes up....and fails to do that completely. He was a poorly written character that needed a lot of work on. I've read up that Mickey Rourke has stated his disappointment, saying that the higher ups wanted just the one dimensional bad guy and not allowing expansion to work on the character. I can really understand where he is coming from, villains need to be as just as complex and motivated as the hero. If not, they just feel flat.

I think the other problem is the film is not very consistent in terms of narrative and clarity. I don't remember Tony promoting Pepper to CEO because he was dying specifically, or at least shown a scene where it was made clear. Also it wasn't very funny to me, because I only laughed twice or thrice while in the cinema, at the beginning and the end of the film. Iron Man 2 is such a waste of a film, unable to really expand more into the Marvel Universe and whatnot.

The last two films I will give a quick mention to is the Ghost Rider double. I have heard that both films aren't very good, the first one being over-the-top and cheesy, and the second Spirit of Vengeance is just bad too. After watching one review about the first film, and seeing a clip of the first, I'm not sure I'd be missing much if I didn't watch it. But hey, I might be bored and need a good laugh at some point! Did that with I Frankenstein, and I turned out fine.

It's probably a good thing that the few bad films have come in-between the better quality films, and not hurting anyone of the franchises too much, unless where X-Men and Spider-Man are concerned where everything led into different directions. I apologise for not mentioning every bad film on here, but I don't really want to bore you all too much. There's plenty more I need to talk about!

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THE TV SHOWS:

When I first got into Marvel, it was partly thanks to the various animated series that was available on Fox Kids for a good time. By various I mean a good load. I remember watching Spider-Man, The Incredible Hulk, X-Men, The Marvel Action Hour (consisting a double bill of Iron Man and Fantastic Four) and Silver Surfer (....anyone actually remember this show?). So much was there to wet the appetite.

Welcome to Marvel's Action Hour. You must be 18 or over to watch these shows back-to-back ;)

To be honest, I don't really remember them so well with complete fondness. All the series had some sort of mixed bags to like and dislike at the same time, because I wasn't sure of the designs the different animations had, which at times were either quite flashy, too bright or just didn't leave that much of an impression on me. I think it's more of the latter, even though I do remember some bits from the show.

The few things did really did stand out for me was actually the very long storylines, like the double Phoenix Sagas in X-Men, the Six Forgotten Warriors in Spider-Man, the first few episodes of the Silver Surfer, seeing Tony Stark's father come back in Iron Man, and actually seeing a big cross-over between all of these series in Spider-Man was ridiculously fun, the list could go on. But it won't so there. What I do fondly remember most of all is the individual intro videos, except for the Fantastic Four ones, which I tried to repress successfully for good reason. They were sooo annoyingly addictive. My all-time favourite intro is probably the Iron Man Season 2 intro. It has a rock guitar focus and solo. Nuff said (no Stan Lee pun intended). It was a good way to spend a weekend instead of doing homework. I have no regrets!......much.

But with the Marvel Cinematic Universe becoming dominate for four years came an idea for a TV show based around the activities of S.H.I.E.L.D., appropriately titled Agents of SHIELD, created by Avengers director Joss Weldon. It brings a somehow brought back to life Agent Phil Son of Coul leading a small team to investigate different cases that threaten the world, and finding out for himself how he was brought back to life in the first place.


The show itself is actually pretty good, considering its overall setting in the big scheme of things with references back to the films with the use of the Extremis technology along with the Chitauri technology , seeing a fugitive from Asgard etc. It gives a more wider scope at how smaller humans can make a difference against the main members of the Avengers. Some of the characters other then Coulson are a little interesting, like how Skye can take matters into her own hands and talk back when necessary, how Melinda May (played by Mulan!) has her nickname 'the Cavalry', and the relationship between Fitz and Simmons (who obviously love each other, but are too piss-scared to say it).

I don't have so many gripes with the show at all, because there are some bits that really do fascinate me, about how where everything is going. But I do wonder if some of the characters come across as a bit bland and not very interesting as people. They might come across as simple sterotypes to put across exposition and defeat the bad guys at every turn. Well, almost every turn. I suppose nothing really feels developed, that we're just simply waiting until the next episode for some explanation for one character or the other.  Also I'm not entirely sure that the three-month long break we had in the UK helped much, since probably half the episodes have already been broadcast in America and we can simply spoil it for ourselves willy-nilly. I don't know, I just can't put my finger on what my issue is. Hmmm more tea is needed I reckon.

Interestingly Marvel Television announced some time ago that Netflix had picked up four live-action series to begin in 2015, focusing on the heroes living in Hell's Kitchen, starting with Daredevil, to culminate into a mini-series called The Defenders. Sounds like a Marvel TV universe so to speak doesn't it? But it shows how much risks Marvel and Disney are willing to take with going into new and different directions, perhaps more so where Daredevil is concerned, because they can bring in more comic book heroes to appeal to Marvel and television fans in general.  They are really pushing the boundaries of the comic book world into a new medium the likes of which has never been seen before.

Perhaps that's why Marvel has made such a big impact in the world as it has done so far. The producers of Marvel and Disney have been willing to take quite big risks in bringing these pictures to life, and succeed for the most part in bringing in big audiences. Yes, every franchise has its cock-ups, but Marvel must feel as if they have not been so repetitive in making those kind of mistakes over and over again. It's hard not to fault them for their probable long-term plans in thinking what films are they going to do next. They seem to know what they are doing, where they want to go for each film and how they are going to do it.

For the time being, Marvel is in control.

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Now we come to DC. Ohh, where do we start with the older of the two? Time hasn't always been kind to DC in the world, especially where film is concerned and TV to an extent. 

Oh hai

To everyone's knowledge, there have been only TWO superheroes that have received the biggest receptions around the world, Bella Swan and Edward Cullen. Oh wait, they're shit I remember! Of course it's Superman and Batman, and DC Entertainment are only starting to get their feet off the ground with production leading forward inevitably to the Justice League film, arguably SO far behind what Marvel is doing. Their path will not be easy, considering not just the release of Green Lantern to poor reception (for good reason), but with the somewhat controversial events surrounding Man of Steel (film-wise) and its still-in-production sequel Superman vs Batman.

It might be fair to say DC are doing the opposite of Marvel, trying to bring the main members of the Justice League slowly film after film instead of giving them separate stories to introduce them and the DC Universe over-time. Least that's to my assumption. It does make things a little different on paper, but whether it will work once the film is finished and released is another matter. However with what success in film they have had, they have had just as much success with TV more so then Marvel have with their DC Animated Universe, as well as other shows like Teen Titans, Young Justice and the ongoing live-action series, Arrow.
Let's go into detail to see how much DC does hold up against Marvel, if it does at all.

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THE GOOD:

Despite what I think at the moment to DC's intentions at the minute, I do think that there is some good from what has been released so far. Well from what I have watched anyway in film. Like I said, Superman and Batman are the main go-to superheroes for DC, the ones that are so popular to have their own recognisable films, loved by many people around the world. Well, loved as much with their best foot forward and worse foot mangled by their own swords.

Superman was the first superhero to have his own big cinematic opus in 1978, released to critical praise and still maintains a good following (time-travelling notwithstanding I think). Superman II received just as much, if not higher, acclaim. Metacritic has a rating of 99. Not even joking. Despite the well-known production complications involving original director Richard Donner and the brought in Richard Lester, people still have great praise to give this film. The third and forth films however weren't so well received. Superman III's greater emphasis on comedy, with the addition of Richard Pryor in the mix, did not sit so well with fans so I've heard, seen as a poor mess of a threequel. The forth however I have seen, and is hilariously bad. Physics are sent away because story is more important, dialogue is silly, the blue-screen effects are so obvious, nothing really makes any sense in this film at all. It is a poor attempt at talking about nuclear weapons which apparently was still a threat in the 80s, right? In 2006 however, the latter two films were ignored in favour of Bryan Singer's big mistake, Superman Returns. Despite some positive reviews, it was seen as a failure at the box office and a potential sequel scrapped. Oh well.

Brandon sad......

Only seven years later, Superman came back to the big screen under the moniker Man of Steel, and setting the course for an eventual Justice League movie. Yeah, I haven't seen this movie properly either (such a big Superman fan aren't I?). I've only heard what happens from accidental spoiling and watching the final battle between him and General Zod. But from what I have seen, it does look a real nice film to get started with. Speaking of which, it does look like it has a similar tone to another film series, which goes all the way back to 1989.

The Batman films I have seen properly, so I can bitch about them all I want! Yay!

I make everyone my bitch, because I'm Batman. Now where's the one called 'Bieber'?

The Tim Burton Double were pretty good films. The first Batman was well-acted, broodingly atmospheric and quite cartoony without being so distracting. Jack Nicholson is good as the Joker, though it might be a little distracting because it is Jack Nicholson. Michael Keaton as Batman was good too, showing how playfully ignorant he can be, but also a playfully vicious side when he puts the cape and cowl on. I will admit there are a lot of things that I don't really find funny, like the hand with the dead flowers popping out as Kim Basinger opens up a parcel. That just goes over my head. Whatever flaws it has, it's still a good movie. Batman Returns was actually the first film I saw of the Burton films, seeing how far dark Burton could go with the drama that the Penguin brought with it. To be honest, that tone of the film didn't really bother me at all. You could argue that that's what Batman is supposed to be: He is a dark superhero, and bad stuff does need to happen in dark storylines. It's something to reflect upon. With that said, it is still a good film. The action scenes are pretty good, it's cartoony in a nice way, though probably a little bit confusing.

The second double and most infamous is the Joel Schumacher films. I still remember Batman Forever quite fondly from days of night-time babysitters. It was entertaining, very bright, manically energetic, dramatic with the appearance of Dick Grayson and very memorable. But that is really my memories as a kid watching it, not as who I am now. Val Kilmer was pretty good too, having a nice brooding voice as Batman while keeping a kind of coolness as Bruce Wayne. Chris O'Donnell as Dick Grayson/Batman's target poster was ok too, bringing a nice bit of angst to the part and slight cockiness too (though I don't know if that's warranted or not considering he lost his parents). Then things took a turn for the worst for many people as Batman and Robin came on the scene. Now like Batman Forever, it's been a long time since I've seen this film and I have heard how much people really HATE this film. But remembering from the time I watched it, I thought it was ok. Please don't hate the kid in me. It wasn't as good as Batman Forever, but was still pretty decent to keep my attention. George Clooney was ok as Batman, though I don't think his voice ever changes at all, just your standard Clooney drawl. Chris O'Donnell seemed to be a little more bitchy for some reason and Alicia Silverstone was ok as Batgirl......actually you know what, I think I do need to re-watch Batman and Robin, just to see what I could make of it now, what it's really like.

I've only noticed this as I'm writing, but have you noticed a pattern between the two films? Burton's films get more darker and broody, while Schumacher's goes more campier. Maybe it shows to producers at any rate that the two extremes are just bad ideas. Needless to say after Batman and Robin died a very slow death at the box office, plans for a Batman Triumphant film were scrapped in haste, and the Dark Knight would lay low from cinematic screens for eight years. Until.......

God rang up and said you needed a series saved?

The new cinematic god Christopher Nolan gave us the now well-renowned realism grounded Batman Trilogy. These films are some of the best in the comic book genre I have had the pleasure of seeing on-screen, and made Nolan one of my favourite directors for mainstream stuff, and set off the idea for reboots for a good number of films. But the first reboot of Batman was the first to be done right in my mind. Batman Begins shows how Bruce Wayne came to become the Dark Knight himself, getting involved in a plot to take Gotham off the map tearing itself apart, literally, through fear. Christian Bale as Batman was really good, turning Bruce Wayne into a sort-of over-the-top money spender and playing Batman well as a good action hero (Quick note: I liked the voice he did. Move along). Katie Holmes as Rachel Dawes was ok too. She did well to come across as someone who tried their hardest to do the right thing, be freaked out and have a caring attitude at times of need. Also the twist was actually really good, considering the man who plays the villain isn't really known for playing villains.

If Batman Begins was the seed of rebooting the franchise, then its sequel The Dark Knight was the crowning jewel, especially with Heath Ledger playing The Joker in a fantastic role. It raised the stakes a little higher, brought in some more impeccable acting from Aaron Eckhart, Maggie Gyllenhall, Morgan Freeman etc, and really nice action scenes to boot. Essentially it became a high point of how comic book sequels ought to be done. The final part The Dark Knight Rises was still a good film, but as I've mentioned before, there are a good number of flaws that needed to be held up. I still think that despite the films intentions, it could've been a hell of a lot better. That said, it is still a very good piece of work, nicely acted and Bane's voice can be heard dammit!

Sadly for the DC side of things, that is as far as I can go talking about good DC films. That must be a worrying thought for DC anyway, because they have no other big superheroes to fall back on in anyway shape or form. From what I have seen, DC can be perfectly capable of making good comic book movies. The difficulty is they just don't half the time with all the other heroes they have put on-screen, some of which aren't even part of the DC universe. With the onset of bringing the Justice League onto the screen, they are making some interesting choices like bringing Ben Affleck on to take the role of Batman and bringing Wonder Woman onto the scene as well, with Gal Gabot in role. So they are making some risks with bringing heroes together one after the other. Whether the choices pay off in the end is another matter. Some other heroes in the DC universe they have tried however just don't work......

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THE BAD:

Oh dear me, there are a few bad ones here. Unfortunately I've only seen the one film, but by my guess I think I might hate the others in that respect too.

In 1997 saw the release of Steel with Shaquille O'Neal in the lead role. In 1997 saw the release of Steel with Shaquille O'Neal in the lead role. Just wrote it down twice to make sure you see I am not bluffing with a chocolate muffin. O'Neal stars as John Henry Irons, who resigns from the army because of his friend 'Sparks' being injured in one of his weapons experiments. Finding out that his old partner Burke is using his weaponry for crime, he makes an exoskeleton rubber suit and takes to the streets as Steel to fight this menace. Unfortunately, the only menace he could not fight back against was the box-office, because this film flopped badly. The only probable good thing to come out of Steel is the actress playing Sparks, Annabeth Gish, getting good reviews herself.

Interesting enough in the original comics, the character was actually inspired to help fight crime after being saved by Superman, and challenged to do something with his life. Longing to atone for the deaths his weapons had caused, he built a suit of exoskeleton armour and assumed the name Steel. I bring this up because I think it's interesting to show how Superman can be a good influence in film as oppose to just creating an original back-story, and it could tie in with the Superman movies. But then again that franchise had died badly, so it didn't need to be repeatedly machine-gunned more into the ground.

Thirteen years later, with Nolan's Batman trilogy one film away from completion you'd think DC would capitalise on making another franchise to equal Batman. In comes Jonah Hex in 2010, with Josh Brolin in the lead role. The story is a revenge tale during the American Civil War, as Hex is forced to kill his commanding officer's son and best friend, Jeb Turnbull for refusing to burn down a hospital. This incurs Quentin Turnbull's wrath and with your resident psychopath in tow from the high street, kills Hex's wife and child in a fire and brands his initials on Hex. Hex seeks revenge and goes after Turnbull. Upon release Jonah Hex was universally panned and only brought in an under a fifth of its budget.

Like with Steel, Hex's backstory is changed from the original comics. He became a bounty hunter upon suggestion by someone when he killed an outlaw who echoed sentiments of his own alcoholic father and abused mother. He himself is killed by another outlaw of some variety, and returned from the dead to receive supernatural powers. Maybe this might have made a better storyline, but honestly, I don't find Jonah Hex that interesting as a person. He just seems a cowboy with a big bulging eye from what I've seen. The film make-up as well from what I've seen leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe in future I'll watch it if I'm so bored out of my mind, or as a way to show people how not to make comic book movies.

A year later came the release of a film I did hate with a passion for a time, and what I thought would be horrible from the trailer: Green Lantern

Upon loading this poster, my face melted again. I should stop watching bad movies.

The plot is as follows:

Hal Jordan is a pilot who is fired after screwing up a training session, and goes to visit his nephew for his birthday. However he is caught in a green energy field and brought to a crashed spaceship where the alien Abin Sur gives him a magic green ring, which helps him defeat a few people on Earth before taking him to the planet Oa, where he discovers the Green Lantern Corp, and an enemy as old as the crop itself, Parallax....and everything goes down hill from there.

After watching this....whatever this was intended to be, I was fraught with the logic because a lot of things don't make sense at all. Here are a few main points that mainly bugged me:

·         Parallax's escape. So wasn't he contained simply by the power of will? Surely willpower is strong enough to stop a evil space octopus (no questions, Parallax is pretty much a evil space octopus) because no one really wants him loose. I know this is nit-picking, but it is a good amount of nit-picking. Without it, the plot can't forward. In fact, it shouldn't really move forward at all. Meh.

 ·         Hal Jordan saying the oath. How did he know the words to say? Abin Sur as he lay dying only told him to say the oath, not telling him what the oath actually is. If he simply pointed to the lantern and said the words before he died, that might have been a bit more helpful. Instead it's just exposition. Not very helpful words. Even when they're spoke, there probably put in there to appease comic book fans. That's not the way such logic works!

 ·         Sinestro turning evil at the end. Why? There wasn't any reason for him to turn evil at the end was there? You could argue that because of his jealously or desire to use fear for other means, but really I did not get that from the film. Just someone whose eager to defeat Parallax at all costs. No sense of character development, no ideas where to go with him, and he puts on the ring because.....it was a Sunday.

 ·         The CGI, more specifically the suits. When the suits came up in the trailer, I groaned. I could tell right off the bat this movie was going to be terrible. Whoever came up with CGI like that needs to punished. I know that they are close to the original depiction from the comic books, but just the look of them was visually distracting. Batman had a realistic suit so why didn't Green Lantern get one?

This has given me an idea that this particular movie has made a crime of doing: Putting comic book references in the film to make it entirely pointless. Yes I know the comic book had that stuff in, but that does NOT give one an excuse to not bother working them in properly into the film's narrative. To me it is just lazy writing, inexcusable. You shouldn't always put comic book stuff so the fans can be happy, and expect the film to work from that, you need to have a lot of consistency and work them into the film to show how these elements of characters, logic etc work instead of just throwing them in willy-nilly, and hope the fans will be happy regardless. That should not be how comic book films work at all!

ARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!..............................nice to get some anger out of the way. Didn't think Green Lantern could piss me off so much.

Daenarys felt the same when Joffrey said he enjoyed Green Lantern and X-Men the Last Stand.

So there pretty much covers DC films for the moment. For some of the good that does come with DC, the bad stuff really seems to drag it down into an endless pit. Superman and Batman are the only ones relied on to bring audiences in to see DC movies, but it doesn't need to be this way. If there can be some good writers, good directors, good actors to bring more DC heroes to the big screen, DC will stand a chance against Marvel in film. It can be done, but I just hope it can be done soon.
But for all the grief I give on film, TV is another story all together.....

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THE TV SHOWS:

As I've mentioned, Marvel are starting to plan a foothold on TV along with future instalments for cinema. DC have already have that in the bag, in live-action and animated formats, more so with the animated side then most.

In the 70s and 80s, there was a period of domination with the Super Friends franchise. Based on the Justice League, it featured a main core of the popular characters from DC comics including: Wonder Woman, Aquaman, The Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkgirl and many more featured in the thirteen year run it had on air, as they faced off against the Legion of Doom, Animal and Hawk......oh sorry, not WWE Legion of Doom, DC Legion of Doom, headed by Lex Luthor. Easily confused obviously.

We will destroyed the Justice League with our patented Marvel waving techniques!

I don't know enough about these shows as you can see. But growing up in the 90s and 00s, I had the opportunity to watch the DC Animated Universe. Created by Bruce Timm and Paul Dini, the various animated series consisted of mature storylines, memorable characters and pretty good action sequences, keeping me and many other people enthralled for over ten years. Interestingly enough there were even a few spin-off movies, one of which getting a theatrical release. I admit to only watching a few of the series in all, but I still have some vivid memories from the episodes on display, especially the intro music that came with the territory.

One episode I remember most vividly from the Batman animated series was The Laughing Fish, where The Joker creates a toxin that affects fish, and Batman appropriately investigates. I remember it being pretty good, some scenes really standing out for me, especially where "Batman" is attacked by a cat, and turns out to be someone else in place of him. Unfortunately, I don't remember because I had primary school annoyingly, so had to leave under educational intent, or whatever educational intent there was.....grr.

One other series that had me interested was Justice League, an off-shoot of Super-Friends (except more mature I think). I remember watching the first three episodes, Secret Origins, when Earth is threatened by an alien invasion. Superman has been having some odd nightmares, but figures out they have been coming from the alien J'onn J'onzz and rescues him with Batman's help. J'onzz then telepathically brings more heroes to help fight the invasion: Wonder Woman, John Stewart as Green Lantern (more respect for him then Hal Jordan), Hawkgirl, and The Flash. I do remember this being so pretty fucking awesome, as the new team fought in pretty good action, nicely done characters and pretty interesting enemies to fight against. This show interested me a hell of a lot, seeing the various members of the Justice League playing off against each other and how the stories keep some consistency as well as a good degree of maturity. It was a show I was happy enough to give my undivided attention to.

That is until the attention came to another favourite TV show, Teen Titans


I loved this show, loved it, loved it, loved it. The theme song was annoyingly addictive, the characters were awesome, the episodes went from funny comedic episodes to serious mature ones seamlessly, it was just something I completely adored and was always keen to watch when young at heart. The show focused on five core members: Robin (Dick Grayson though it's not actually specified), Cyborg, Starfire, Beast Boy and my overall favourite character Raven, following their different adventures and even including two major comic book storylines from the Teen Titans comics themselves. Watching them recently, I still got a sense of enjoyment out of them. They were still funny (though some of the jokes are bit contrived for plot convenience), the mature stuff held up well (except for one episode in particular involving racism), the animation really sweet and the voice acting can be really good at times, but the tone can be a little annoying. It didn't stop me from enjoying the series over ten years after I watched it. Last year, the series was rebooted somewhat into a more surreal comedic series called Teen Titans Go!, which I did found very strange but still really funny and good fun to watch. I'd recommend both to watch, so.....Simon says bitches. :).

In terms of live-action series, Marvel may be trying to get a foothold, but DC have a lot going for it since the 1950s. The first live-action show at that time was The Adventures of Superman (isn't that just the way?), starring George Reeves as the alien hero. A decade later, the Adam West show brought Batman to popular heights with its campy tone and uses of the words Pow!, Sock! And Zooo Motherfucker! Wonder Woman was the next popular series in the 70s, with that repetitive theme song and I think slight amount of cheesiness as well, though I have only seen clips of it, not a full episode.

One season I have kept with and watched rather religiously is Arrow.


Following the Green Arrow comic book series, Arrow is about the inner city adventures of Oliver Queen, who fights crime in Starling City, originally setting his father's wrongs to rights in the first series, then pledging to stop all criminals without attempting to kill them in season two. What I love about this series is the various twists and turns that happened throughout, seeing how the characters have developed into their roles, and despite the undisputable that Queen is pretty much a near rip-off of Batman, he is an interesting character all round, planning for all sorts of different situations, like when he is actually arrested for being the Arrow but figuring out a plan for that situation. If you fancy giving it a go, do. It is a clever series, full of interesting stuff and really brings the mythos of the DC universe to home.

I now have read about the development of new shows like The Flash, which was used in Arrow as a kind of back-door pilot to show off the origin for Barry Allen, and a series following the early career of Commissioner Gordon and a young Bruce Wayne called Gotham, as he investigates the murder of Wayne's parents and sees the origins of such famous Batman villains such as Penguin, Catwoman, Two-Face etc. Both series do feel as if they have a lot of promise, more so with Gotham I think, and with the onset of Marvel series to come, I think they should deliver greatness.


So looking back on this section, I do enjoy the DC stuff on TV in my personal opinion, just as much with what Marvel has to offer. Compared to the movies, the TV shows can be so much better to take in and enjoy. I have wonder if DC characters can work in TV better because there's so much more to work with. It is a big universe like Marvel and with the multitude of characters that exist, it can be possible to do, probably more so with the lesser known heroes to bring them to the forefront. So yes, DC definitely has more of a home on TV then it does for the moment at the cinema.

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TO SUM UP:

Looking back on what I have discovered and from my own personal experience, I do think it is a split landside for either side, and it will come as no surprise to some people. Marvel has the advantage in film due to its many advantages in having THREE film companies to work with, a long term planning strategy, and great actors to fall back against. With the five TV series currently in production, it is an obvious prospect that Marvel will dominate for many years to come. At the present moment for DC, it's hard to see them bringing anything that will bring comic books on mass to their side. That doesn't mean that they're not capable of doing really, because they can. But the bad films released really bring down DC quite a notch compared to what Marvel has managed to bring out.

The main problem for DC is how they handle the creation of their heroes. Not like with Superman and Batman, but with Green Lantern and Jonah Hex. From my experience with Green Lantern, he was created terribly on film, and deserved way better planning out to his character and story. I don't know who else has an interest in Jonah Hex, but he isn't a superhero I have that much interest in. That is only my opinion however.

As a bit of fun for myself and my friend, I did a plan-out of a Teen Titan film series. There is a core mythology all around the characters who are part of the group, and many themes, worlds and drama that can be properly explored if written right. From what I have seen, there is a pretty sizable fan base for Teen Titans and this should be given a good deal of thought, because there are great numbers of superheroes that exist in the DC Universe, but they have not the great exposure that Superman and Batman happen to have. That on itself is surely a sad thing on film. With the point on relying on Superman and Batman most of the time as well, DC will be seen a two-man horse.

On TV however, DC does have some great shows of their own, especially with Arrow at the minute, and perhaps Gotham and The Flash will deliver too before long. But they need to up their game if Marvel's five shows are successful in their own right, and not be on the back foot like they have done in film. But I think their quality doesn't need to change at all if the time comes, and it will, they need to have studios (TV AND Film) on their side to be able to continue having some relevance, because if they are eclipsed then the comic books will be their only source of entertainment. From what I have learned from them, they are not as interesting.

In the end then, DC is capable of so much entertainment. But with Marvel coming up and up, it's hard to see any kind of fight-back at all.

But the Battle continues....


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That's it for the Randomizer this week. I hope you enjoyed my thoughts and rants, and will follow me next month wherever I go. Good day to you all!

Randomizer out.